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Real relationships??? Huh... - Woke Up - 11-24-2017

I understand the importance of Christians "planting a seed" & ..."allowing God to water"..... But when are Fundies going to come to realize that "door to door" visitation is much less effective than FORMING REAL LIFE RELATIONSHIPS WITH REAL PEOPLE!!!???!?

Are they terribly afraid of actually getting to know someone for who that person really is?

It's so much easier and feels so good on a conscience to just stop by some random strangers home, rap on their door, shove some IFB  tract into their hands, bid them good-day and leave...more than likely never to see the person again. I'm sure they sleep well, and add their tract distribution tallies to their weekly bulletin.

One thing I'm so thankful for after leaving the cult is that I'm free from "soul winning Saturdays". You know why? I form REAL RELATIONSHIPS with people that I meet and care about in REAL life. 

You don't just have a baby, stick it in a crib, shove a bottle in it's hands and walk off. 

Neither should we do the lost world that way.

Oh, I could rant. But what good would it do.

As long as IFB pastors continue to force their agenda and habits on their church members, what can you do?


RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - pastor's wife - 11-24-2017

Cold calling is intimidating for many to do so when they force themselves to do it in the name of serving God, they can feel good about themselves. They're sacrificing their time; they're proclaiming their faith in Christ to strangers. There's a lot of "points" they can give themselves for stuff like that.

But, as you said, how effective is it? And, honestly, it IS easier to knock on a door, give a spiel, and walk away than it is to spend time with people and get involved in their messy lives (and open yourself up to them seeing your OWN messiness).


RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - Woke Up - 11-25-2017

(and open yourself up to them seeing your OWN messiness)

Great point.

We all know that the IFBers love to point out everyone else's faults and rarely regard the beam in their own eye.

So many secrets behind the closed doors of their minds.

Pornography, incest, drinking, molestation, impure thought life, adultery of the heart, murders... All locked up in their mind. No one can see it so it's ok.


RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - WalrusWrangler - 11-27-2017

Jesus said to make disciples. He never said to make converts. The IFB doesn't get it because discipleship isn't something you can easily check off in a list. I once heard a fundy guy talking about a recent convert who wanted to spend time with him. "He's saved! Why do I need to keep talking to him?" I bit my tongue hard since I didn't know the guy too well. Had it been a friend I may have said more, though.


RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - Woke Up - 11-27-2017

(11-24-2017, 10:28 PM)pastor Wrote: Cold calling is intimidating for many to do so when they force themselves to do it in the name of serving God, they can feel good about themselves.  They're sacrificing their time; they're proclaiming their faith in Christ to strangers.  There's a lot of "points" they can give themselves for stuff like that.

But, as you said, how effective is it?  And, honestly, it IS easier to knock on a door, give a spiel, and walk away than it is to spend time with people and get involved in their messy lives (and open yourself up to them seeing your OWN messiness).

(11-27-2017, 01:23 PM)WalrusWrangler Wrote: Jesus said to make disciples. He never said to make converts. The IFB doesn't get it because discipleship isn't something you can easily check off in a list. I once heard a fundy guy talking about a recent convert who wanted to spend time with him. "He's saved! Why do I need to keep talking to him?" I bit my tongue hard since I didn't know the guy too well. Had it been a friend I may have said more, though.

My husband and I did the Lead Like Jesus book study several years ago. For the first time in my life my eyes were opened to the importance of making disciples... We always over look the last of Matthew 28 where it says, "Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you;...."

I asked my parents who are hard core fundies if they ever practice "discipleship" in their soul winning church. I got blank stares. They are so used to shoving a tract into someone' s face and walking off.


Real relationships??? Huh... - EnlightenedMK - 11-28-2017

Well real relationships would mean being friends and eating with sinners and every one knows you can’t eat a meal with people you disagree with otherwise they might think you are condoning their sin, also it’s much harder to condemn someone when they are a real person to you.

Nevermind that Jesus ate with sinners, nevermind that we are commanded to love even our enemies.

Will just knock on their door and bash them over the head, figuratively, with the Bible and tell them what a dirty rotten person they are so they can be saved.


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RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - rsc2a - 11-29-2017

Why are you only figuratively nagging them over the head with a Bible? It's much more fun to actually do it. Smile


Real relationships??? Huh... - EnlightenedMK - 12-03-2017

(11-29-2017, 11:55 AM)rsc2a Wrote: Why are you only figuratively nagging them over the head with a Bible? It's much more fun to actually do it. Smile


Haha ?


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RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - Josh - 12-05-2017

(11-28-2017, 02:42 PM)EnlightenedMK Wrote: Well real relationships would mean being friends and eating with sinners and every one knows you can’t eat a meal with people you disagree with otherwise they might think you are condoning their sin, also it’s much harder to condemn someone when they are a real person to you.

Nevermind that Jesus ate with sinners, nevermind that we are commanded to love even our enemies.

It's not apropos of fundies, but I thought the new evangelical way was to befriend sinners, invite them to dinner, and hang out with them once every so often, while reminding them on the regular that you "love them, but can't support their lifestyle" (because if you don't say it all the time, the poor sinner might forget about your disapproval).


RE: Real relationships??? Huh... - myotch - 12-05-2017

I thought the new evangelical way was to invite them to church and then spring a Sunday Morning rock concert with full stage lights and smoke effects on 'em. As for the music....it's praise in the front and party in the back! [octothorp]Moshing4Jesus!