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Wretched, hyper modernized fundies? - Durandalski - 11-05-2017

So I've been seeing this stuff posted by one of my old fundyU dormmates, who took a left turn into left field level fundy crazy while I gtfo. Wretched posts video and podcast content with very high production value, and are using social media as a primary avenue of approach. 

https://www.facebook.com/WretchedNetwork/

https://www.youtube.com/user/WretchedNetwork

https://twitter.com/WretchedNetwork?lang=en


Like I said, they are using excellent production value, clearly high end camera and audio equipment, with a lot of attention given to making the setwork and camera work appear modern. But the content is often straight out of left field fundy. Some older videos have the host doing a modernized version of street preaching using a PA and small stage. He even brings up people to debate with him on stage. He isn't yelling, which makes it seem less obnoxious at first, but his methods are as obnoxious as ever. 
The Wretched TV vidoes are often quite snarky, and often address typical fundy bugaboos. The recent one about how he made a "contemporary worship song" is cringe inducing for so many reasons. 

The weird thing is the lack of association. Nowhere on his social media sites or website can I find an association with a church. The words "independant," fundamentalist," and "Baptist," never appear anywhere on any of his media or sites, and no content that I've seen addresses the KJV directly, though it is always used to quote scripture. This is highly unusual since most fundies believe that all ministries must be done out of a local church, and typically display this association at least in at least one place. There aren't even any clues in the statement of faith, which would line up with most IFB churches other than the glaring omission of the word "Baptist" anywhere in the church section. The closest thing to an association is that he mentions "his friend" Ron Comfort, in the about page. Comfort is the president of Ambassador Baptist fundyU, but that fact isn't mentioned. 

So what are we looking at here? The future of fundamentalism? Adopting the modern presentation and techniques, while continuing to hammer the same old paths? Without ever mentioning the old paths mind you. Its really weird and clearly has a following in fundystan. 
Thoughts? Anybody else encountered this kind of thing?


Wretched, hyper modernized fundies? - rtgmath - 11-05-2017

(11-05-2017, 08:09 AM)Durandalski Wrote: So I've been seeing this stuff posted by one of my old fundyU dormmates, who took a left turn into left field level fundy crazy while I gtfo. Wretched posts video and podcast content with very high production value, and are using social media as a primary avenue of approach. 

https://www.facebook.com/WretchedNetwork/

https://www.youtube.com/user/WretchedNetwork

https://twitter.com/WretchedNetwork?lang=en


Like I said, they are using excellent production value, clearly high end camera and audio equipment, with a lot of attention given to making the setwork and camera work appear modern. But the content is often straight out of left field fundy. Some older videos have the host doing a modernized version of street preaching using a PA and small stage. He even brings up people to debate with him on stage. He isn't yelling, which makes it seem less obnoxious at first, but his methods are as obnoxious as ever. 
The Wretched TV vidoes are often quite snarky, and often address typical fundy bugaboos. The recent one about how he made a "contemporary worship song" is cringe inducing for so many reasons. 

The weird thing is the lack of association. Nowhere on his social media sites or website can I find an association with a church. The words "independant," fundamentalist," and "Baptist," never appear anywhere on any of his media or sites, and no content that I've seen addresses the KJV directly, though it is always used to quote scripture. This is highly unusual since most fundies believe that all ministries must be done out of a local church, and typically display this association at least in at least one place. There aren't even any clues in the statement of faith, which would line up with most IFB churches other than the glaring omission of the word "Baptist" anywhere in the church section. The closest thing to an association is that he mentions "his friend" Ron Comfort, in the about page. Comfort is the president of Ambassador Baptist fundyU, but that fact isn't mentioned. 

So what are we looking at here? The future of fundamentalism? Adopting the modern presentation and techniques, while continuing to hammer the same old paths? Without ever mentioning the old paths mind you. Its really weird and clearly has a following in fundystan. 
Thoughts? Anybody else encountered this kind of thing?


I wouldn’t be surprised. First thing you want to do when confronting the enemy is to confuse him as to who you are. They think that by being “modern” they are being “relevant” and edgy.

God knows they need relevance. But usually groups that travel this route get harsher and more strident about some things as they relax about others. But in the end, Fundamentalism is still about entrenched ignorance.


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RE: Wretched, hyper modernized fundies? - James33 - 11-07-2017

(11-05-2017, 08:09 AM)Durandalski Wrote: So I've been seeing this stuff posted by one of my old fundyU dormmates, who took a left turn into left field level fundy crazy while I gtfo. Wretched posts video and podcast content with very high production value, and are using social media as a primary avenue of approach. 

https://www.facebook.com/WretchedNetwork/

https://www.youtube.com/user/WretchedNetwork

https://twitter.com/WretchedNetwork?lang=en


Like I said, they are using excellent production value, clearly high end camera and audio equipment, with a lot of attention given to making the setwork and camera work appear modern. But the content is often straight out of left field fundy. Some older videos have the host doing a modernized version of street preaching using a PA and small stage. He even brings up people to debate with him on stage. He isn't yelling, which makes it seem less obnoxious at first, but his methods are as obnoxious as ever. 
The Wretched TV vidoes are often quite snarky, and often address typical fundy bugaboos. The recent one about how he made a "contemporary worship song" is cringe inducing for so many reasons. 

The weird thing is the lack of association. Nowhere on his social media sites or website can I find an association with a church. The words "independant," fundamentalist," and "Baptist," never appear anywhere on any of his media or sites, and no content that I've seen addresses the KJV directly, though it is always used to quote scripture. This is highly unusual since most fundies believe that all ministries must be done out of a local church, and typically display this association at least in at least one place. There aren't even any clues in the statement of faith, which would line up with most IFB churches other than the glaring omission of the word "Baptist" anywhere in the church section. The closest thing to an association is that he mentions "his friend" Ron Comfort, in the about page. Comfort is the president of Ambassador Baptist fundyU, but that fact isn't mentioned. 

So what are we looking at here? The future of fundamentalism? Adopting the modern presentation and techniques, while continuing to hammer the same old paths? Without ever mentioning the old paths mind you. Its really weird and clearly has a following in fundystan. 
Thoughts? Anybody else encountered this kind of thing?

While I understand where you're coming from, you're pretty wrong on the Wretched group. There is a fundamentalist-type of group brewing within the Southern Baptist Convention who term themselves as traditionalists. We're more familiar with the fundamentalists vs the neo-evangelicals issues. What some of us may not be aware is the battle brewing within the SBC between the Calvinist-leaning groups and the non Calvinist leaning groups. This is something you need to understand when you start looking at groups like "Wretched". Wretched is a bad example to use my friend, Josh Teis would be a better one concerning the IFB movement.

BTW: Their association is not his friend Ron Comfort, its Ray Comfort. Two completely different people with the latter being well known amongst evangelicals.


RE: Wretched, hyper modernized fundies? - Campmeeting Liberal - 11-07-2017

He reminded me of the Howard Stern Show from E! Network back in the early 2000s. Lol


RE: Wretched, hyper modernized fundies? - James33 - 11-09-2017

(11-07-2017, 10:58 PM)Campmeeting Liberal Wrote: He reminded me of the Howard Stern Show from E! Network back in the early 2000s. Lol

The host (I believe its Friel) is a radio host like Howard Stern of a conservative Christian station.