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Irony of UC Berkeley - James33 - 02-02-2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/us/uc-berkeley-milo-yiannopoulos-protest.html

So much for the home of the Free Speech movement... pretty sad to be honest... I hate Milo but he does bring dialogue that I'd like to challenge if I meet him in person.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - Dr. Jezebel - 02-02-2017

Free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.

It doesn't mean every message should be given the same amount of attention nor equal platform.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - James33 - 02-03-2017

(02-02-2017, 08:54 PM)Dr. Jezebel Wrote: Free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.

It doesn't mean every message should be given the same amount of attention nor equal platform.

I am understanding that a club of Republicans within the school invited him, not the university itself. I'm also aware two "College Republicans" were attacked by unknown individuals not related to the school either.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - Dr. Jezebel - 02-03-2017

The university should have a say who speaks on campus.

Personal physical attacks are generally unwarranted.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - rsc2a - 02-03-2017

Public universities should be able to violate the first amendment?


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - myotch - 06-18-2017





Another public college reeling from students against freedom of speech.

Dr.J, would you have it so a public college or university could stop a progressive or gay rights group from inviting a controversial speaker?


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - Miss TTU Runner-Up - 06-18-2017

How far is free speech allowed to go when it seems to endanger people? I don't know the answer to that question.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - myotch - 06-19-2017

Define "endanger".

In Berkeley - the home of free speech when leftists wanted their ideas to reach an audience - Milo actually posed no actual threat. Coulter posed no threat. They are just loud and obnoxious in a politically-correct environment (don't oppressive atmospheres like politically correct liberal arts schools practically Invite rebellion from the status quo?)

The so-called anti-fascists are the ones embracing their own "nights of broken glass". The world's gone weird.

Look at Evergreen State. A progressive professor saw something wrong with minority students disinviting white students from the college for a day, though sees nothing wrong with a protest day where any population can voluntarily remove themselves. He's branded a racist. He's shouted down and disrespected publicly. Who was endangered? It's just all gone weird.


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - Miss TTU Runner-Up - 06-20-2017

Defining what is dangerous is part of the problem.
In general, I think colleges should be places that invite open discussion of various viewpoints, including unpopular ones. If there is a fear of riots breaking out and people getting hurt, is the college worried about liability? We do seem to be a more litigation-prone society than in the 60's.
Also, colleges and universities compete for students, especially as more people choose community colleges due to cost. Perhaps they are catering to their target consumers?


RE: Irony of UC Berkeley - James33 - 06-29-2017

(02-03-2017, 11:04 AM)Dr. Jezebel Wrote: The university should have a say who speaks on campus.

Personal physical attacks are generally unwarranted.

They were originally going to allow the speaker until threats emerged.